Can we learn something from his
Interview and expect same growth from the Nepalese Stock Market as he expected
from Indian Market ?
Invest in stock market; expect good
returns over 3-5 years: Rakesh Jhunjhunwala
Investor Rakesh Jhunjhunwala does not believe
investing in gold is a good idea in the long term. But he thinks it's time to
invest in the stock market. In an exclusive chat with Bollywood actor Chitrangada Singh on ET NOW, he says investors
will get very good returns over the next three to five years. Edited excerpts:
Chitrangada Singh: I just want to start with asking you something
that I have no idea about: what is one tip that you would like to give to all
the women who are wanting to now invest?
Rakesh
Jhunjhunwala: I think, women also know and understand. But the problem is that
tips are hazardous for health and you cannot make money. Stock investing, like
cooking, cannot be taught, it has to be learned.
CS: So, have to waste some
money and burn your fingers and...?
RJ:
Something which cannot be taught has to be learned... My mother can teach me to
cook everything. But finally, what my mother makes is much better than what the
cook can make.
CS: But you know the recipe
book. So, let's open up a page...
RJ:
The quest to learn is a journey. I have learned much, but much is still
unlearned. So, despite people saying that I am a guru or I know everything, one
thing I can tell you (is) the market is like women, always commanding, always
mysterious, always volatile, always exciting, and it is not a joke.
In
my 25-30 years of experience in the market, just as you cannot have a good
relationship with a woman by bullying her, you cannot have a good relationship
with the market by trying to bully it or say that you are the king. The king is
the market.
CS: Are we going through a
recession? As much as everything tells us we have such fantastic investments
coming in, FDI is growing and everything is happening, but I really think when
I feel around me, I think there is a recession which nobody is talking about?
RJ:
I think, there is a slowdown, there is a recession, no doubt about it. There is
a recession in Bollywood — I do not think so. Films are getting more expensive
by the day. They are making more money by the day. So, there is a slowdown in
the country. But I think, it is temporary and it will reverse itself.
CS: Yes, properties are
dropping a little.
RJ:
So, you invest in property?
CS: Yes, some.
RJ:
Feel very safe about it?
CS: Sort of, because I think
that at least it is on ground and it is there, instead of papers in your
locker...
RJ:
But I think those lockers and papers are far easier and far profitable to deal
than property. I just have to pay 3 lakh custody charges a year.
CS: So, about stocks... what is
the one thing that has really worked for you, the one thing that you followed?
RJ: That is grace.
CS: Now that is not a mantra, I
am asking for a mantra. Of course, it is God's grace.
RJ:
I do not think there is one thing which has worked, what has worked is
differentiated thinking, courage of my conviction. I entered the stock market
with .`5,000. I am what I am by the grace of God and the blessing of my
parents. But nobody ever gives me any money to invest.
CS: Taking chances?
RJ:
Life is a risk, life is a gambling, life is ultimate call and life is risk.
Today, suppose I travel by car from here to Bandra, there could always be
accidents. But if I say how many people have been killed earlier or have met
with accidents, you assess risk and once you assess risk, then you take a
decision based on it. I do not think, it is a risk. Also, you must realise that
success can be temporary and transient.
CS: Okay, you just got lucky
and, of course, you took chances.
RJ:
Yes, I got lucky and I would not say I took chances. I took conscious chances.
CS: What is the one sector that
you would say you can, sort of, predict...
RJ:
See, I invest in all kinds of sectors. I invest in a pharma company, in a
hotel, in a jewellery company, in a watch company, you know all kinds of
investments. Finally, we invest out of ignorance. We cannot be perfect. The
founding basis of the legs of all businesses has comment traits.
CS: Retail I believe...
RJ:
Yes, I have an investment in retail companies too. I have investment in all
kinds of companies. I have investment in a gambling company and I have
investment in a company which makes ethanol plant.
CS: So, what is that one sector
which is making maximum money, right now?
RJ:
See, the market is always popular. It may not be always profitable to do what
is popular.
CS: Which sector would be the
most safe for a good bet?
RJ:: At the moment, the export sector.
Companies which are exporting. Many financial companies are also going at very
cheap valuations. I think, it is the time to invest in the market. You will get
very good returns over the next three to five years. CS: What about gold?
Should we be investing in gold?
CS: What about gold?
CS: What about gold?
RJ:
Ask my wife, I do not buy gold.
CS: You would not ever invest
in gold?
RJ:
I do not invest in gold.
CS: So that is...you are saying
that it is not probably such a good idea to invest in gold.
RJ: Yes, over the next
one year, it could be good. But over a 4-5-year horizon, I am not so bullish.
CS: Okay, it just goes up and
keeps coming down, just keeps doing that, great.
RJ:
Where have you invested in?
CS: Gold, that is why I was
like... gold and some property. I have invested a little bit in stocks and, of
course, mutual funds.
RJ: Made money?
CS: Not much, not in the
market. But the property has always given good returns.
RJ:
I do not know why people do not make money in markets.
CS: I guess, we have bad
advisors.
RJ:
You must have invested in 2006-07.
CS: Yes, well, you know it has
been over the past seven-eight years, but they always keep talking about long
term, long term, and the long term never seems to end.
RJ:And
how long is long term?
CS: I have no idea. I have no
idea how long is long term.
RJ:
So you do not want to direct a film?
CS: I would love to, some day.
Yes, I would love to.
RJ:
Who is your favourite director?
CS: Favourite, there are a few
that I would really like to work with. Farhan is a very good director and Zoya
Akhtar is a fabulous director. There are so many — Raju and Vishal.
RJ:
Raju Hirani?
CS: Yes, Raju Hirani.
RJ:
Gem of a man.
CS: Yes, he is a fabulous
person. He is such a great human being. Yes, these people and that is about it.
RJ:
I also produced a film called English Vinglish.
CS: Oh, I loved that film. I am
so glad that somebody like you is producing a film... it is a very good film.
RJ:
What is your ultimate ambition in life?
CS: I should be asking you that
question, how much more do you want to earn?
RJ::
They say the hunt is better than the kill. I come from a middle class
background and I do not lose our middle class roots... I want to give as much
as possible to charity. I am supporting some charities now, but I want to do
far bigger. I want to work, because I want to die with my shoes ...on to enjoy
what I do and I do what I enjoy.
he entered in stock with 5,000.....its amazing.....
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